Showing posts with label fascism. Show all posts
Showing posts with label fascism. Show all posts

Tuesday, May 21, 2013

Racist enjoyed 'Avatar'! Film at 11:00

Well, well, well. A friend of mind e-mailed me and pointed out that on the racist website Chimpout.com (Which you may remember) there was a recent thread talking about the cartoon "Legend of Korra" (A spin-off of the show Avatar the Last Airbender), and someone who mistakenly thought that the thread was talking about 'Avatar' as in James Cameron's movie made a post talking about how much they enjoyed the film and how they would rather live with Na'vi than black people.
 
 Don't take my word for it:
 
My, my, my. And I thought that supposedly everyone who hated this movie was an evil racist and that this movie's "beautiful message" made them feel "threatened", or at least, that's what avatards keep saying, so it must be true, right?
 
Oh man, am I gonna have fun linking to that thread and this pic next time some avatard starts their tired "If you don't love Avatar, you're racist!" bullshit.





 

Monday, July 30, 2012

Avatards and Race Relations: Exposing a myth

One of the great myths spread by Avatards is that Avatar was successful because it had an "anti-racist" message, and was beloved by all minorities (especially black people) and that if you dislike the film, you must automatically be some sort of white supremacist racist inbred pot-bellied redneck sharecropper KKK member from the deep south who "doesn't want to see the truth" that Avatar provides. The only minorities who dislike the film are "Uncle Toms" (a submissive, weak-willed black person who loves white people and bows down to them), supposedly.

 Except, no. That isn't true at all.

A quick search on Google images for Avatar fans shows almost exclusively white people in costume, at conventions, or attending re-releases of the film. With one exception on page 3, it is like this for more than 20 pages (which is where I stopped looking) of ALL the results you see on Google images. Furthermore, a quick search on Google for White people + Avatar immediately brings up completely negative articles regarding the film and calling it "racist", "a feel good movie for white people", "patronizing", etc. Don't take my word for it though:

 Also interestingly, that first article, "When will white people stop making movies like Avatar", isn't just one that only came up because it matched the search terms; it is actually a very widespread article which many people believe and agree with. Look at how mnay times it has been copied to other sites on the internet; clearly, it isn't just an obscure/ignored rant made up by some lone crazy person:
 However, those results don't prove anything so much as that lots of people see a racist-condescending subtext in the film. There are people out there who will read racism into anything. Broad results like this don't prove that black people love or hate the film.

 But individual bloggers do.

The person who runs Truth First, a black power blog so outspoken some have called it satire, absolutely hates the film, and considers Neytiri "a white man's perversion" of African beauty.

 Now read some of the other posts on the blog.

 Does the person who runs "Truth First" sound like an "Uncle Tom" to you?

 Next we find the forums for Assata Shakur, black panther and mother of Tupac. This place has been described by some people as the "black version of Stormfront".


 Do those people, who consider white people a failed mutant race who suffer from undiagnosed insanity that makes them want to conquer other races, sound like submissive Uncle Toms to you?

 I'd be very interested in seeing an Avatard try to tell these people, in person, that they are Uncle Toms because they didn't love Avatar.

 Now we come to one of the only black guys I can find online who likes Avatar, Mr. Bunche, of the Vault of Buncheness blog.

 Vault of Buncheness exclusively reviews B-movies, sci-fi movies, porn and exploitation films, so it is inevitable that Avatar would be reviewed and, compared to a lot of the crap covered there, would come out looking good. Bunche did not LOVE the film, but he enjoyed it a lot and said he would see it again.

 I think it is telling that, for a film that "all black people everywhere" love, one would have to seek out an obscure sci-fi film blogger to find a black person who actually likes the film. Keep in mind too, that Bunche did not praise the film because of it's message, he thought the film was as cliche as the haters did; he just enjoyed it because he felt it was a technically apt, entertaining film and that there was no way the story could really be fresh, so he enjoyed it for what it is. Bunche also is known for enjoying the films of John Waters, as well as comedies like Soul Plane (which is widely loathed among the broader African American community as a "modern-day minstrel show").

 Clearly, he is a very hard man to offend, thus it makes sense that he wouldn't find Avatar problematic. I am not saying I am questioning his credibility because of the films he watches, in fact, I find it admirable that he likes "trashy" movies so openly, but clearly this is a guy who couldn't care less about the film's "message".

 So ultimately, we see from just these simple results that NO, Avatar is not universally beloved by the African-American community. At best, it was mildly enjoyed by ONE blogger who doesn't even view films in terms of race, at the most moderate, it was considered a well-meaning bone toss that was still extremely problematic and that would have been better if the main character was not present at all, at worst, it is considered a perversion of African culture and lambasted for it's racist, condescending use of the "mighty whitey" trope.

 And as for racists disliking the film...

 I've long used the term "chimpout' both online and in real life to describe people who fly off the handle because of stupid shit, but I've used it increasingly less because of a racist website called Chimpout.com, which is a site devoted to comparing black people to monkeys. Chimpout.com is interesting, in that it occasionally makes good points about double standards in media and is extremely tolerant of most non-white races, but it's still a despicable hate site. So, because of my personal dislike for the site, I decided to use it as my test to see just how much "racists" really "feel threatened" by Avatar.

In brief, they weren't.

 Most of them in fact, praised the film for not having any black people play human characters, several made defenses for the film saying it was harmless entertainment, one of them even liked the character of Neytiri and said they could ignore the fact that she was voiced by a black actress, one poster even approved of Zoe Saldana's casting by saying "who better to play a non-human than a non-human?" (which is as close to a compliment as they can give). Even the most vehemently negative of the posters still praised the film as a "technological triumph" and found good things to say about the film. Some even praised the Na'Vi as being better than actual black people.

 While I can't say that they all liked the film, for a forum whose entire purpose is to demonize black people, the posters on CO all seemed fairly ambivalent about the film. Clearly, they were not "threatened" or offended by it's message, several even defended it. Even the most negative feelings towards the film were calmly delivered and not filled with rage. All in all, that being the biggest thread on CO about Avatar, it was clear that not too many people cared.

 Objectively then, I would say that, when a website second only to Stormfront in infamy that has been called "the most racist website in North America" is ambivalent at worst towards a film, sometimes supportive (if in a condescending way), then that film is probably not "making racists everywhere feel threatened".

So who are the racists and bigots who discuss Avatar?

 Using the same logic that the fans do, I can only say that most racist and bigoted people who discuss Avatar are: The Fans.

 They make N-word jokes, check out this fan's username:

 He also clearly is not simply using the name as a term of endearment towards himself, he knows he's being racist, and laughing about it. Proof? He changed his username overnight because he didn't want to get called out for it:

  They also have no problem with other forms of bigotry, such as homphobia:

 They also quote racists in their signatures:
 Yes indeed, Gandhi was a racist. He even has fans on Chimpout.

 Yes, I know that "FinalFantasy_" was just joking around, pancake-eater was just issuing a common schoolyard taunt (although it does show how immature he is), and MuchToBeGratefulFor is not quoting Gandhi because of his racism, but still, this shows their hypocrisy.

 So what does this prove? Does it prove that I'm right? No, there are exception to every rule, but it does prove several things:

 -Avatar is not terribly popular with African-Americans to any overwhelming degree, and those who do praise it either couldn't care less about it's "message" or like the message but still find the film problematic. It is DEFINITELY not universally popular with them.

-Racists (and not just any racists, but ones from one of the most infamous racist websites of all time) don't have any particular hatred for the film, most are ambivalent about it, and some even support it. They are certainly not "threatened" by it.

-Avatar fans have no problem making racist and homophobic jokes, quoting racists, and telling people how they should feel. If anyone is the bigots, it's them.



Sunday, July 29, 2012

Loose brains: When Avatards become 9/11 truthers

 You knew it was just a matter of time before it turned out that Avatards were 9/11 conspiracy theorists. It's so obvious that they would be that it just kind of slips your mind. Check this shit out:
A possible voice of reason?
That's a good Avatard. Have a cookie, then go get your fucking shinebox.

I find it amazing that people will believe what some website tells them to.

So does this prove that all Avatards are scum? No, but it does prove several things:

 1) It isn't all an act. Avatards really do take themselves seriously as being "rebels" fighting the evil Joo government.

 2) Avatards lack knowledge of even the most basic scientific principles.

 3) The Avatar fans out there who actually are educated and intelligent are mocked and laughed at by the majority of the fanbase.

 4) Avatards are easily influenced by what they see in movies and websites.

 You know, let's just argue for a moment that 9/11 really was an inside job, you have to wonder what the FBI would think if I turned this all in to them...


Monday, July 9, 2012

Avatards are greedy bastards:

 Feelings of inferiority, as we've discussed, are one of the defining traits of the typical Avatar fanboy. NOTHING will satisfy these people, NOTHING. The next president could change the country's name to Pandora, or legally recognize Na'Vi as a race, and these idiots still will whine about the film being "underrated".

Now, get this, despite the film still being in the IMDb Top 500, Avatards are whining en masse about the film not being in the Top 250:

 Apparently, being in the Top 250 for 3 years (yes, the film had already made the top 250 just a day after it came out) isn't enough:


 The film remained in the Top 250 as recently as May 2012 (sadly, Wayback Machine hasn't captured 2012 yet), in fact, a troll named The_Purge devoted himself to complaining about the film's being in the top 250, celebrating whenever it would drop a notch, and he still remains, along with Sith56, Alias, Statler_and_waldorf's_account, Tarababy and YoungSmells, near the top of the Avatar IMDb board's "rogues gallery". In fact, a more recent troll named clr03f  was accused of being his sockpuppet:

 However, for argument's sake, let's discount 2009 and most of 2012. Even then, Avatar was still in the Top 250 for two straight years, and it's place there was well known and prominent enough for a troll who remains infamous to this day to base their entire gimmick off of the that., and it still is in the top 500.

 And yet, they still whine. Most fanbases would be proud to have their favorite films make the bottom of the top 250 for a few months, but two whole years (discounting 2009 and 2012) still will not satisfy Avatards. They need the excessive stimulation and reassurance, or they will go berserk.

BTW, here's an interesting link about symptoms of sociopaths, pay attention to #4. Sounds familiar, huh?

 Pray that the film never falls out of the top 500, because if it does, well, let's put it this way: Many have feared that if Trayvon Martin shooter George Zimmerman walks free, that there will be a massive scale riot similar to the Rodney King riots, both from angry minorities and cocky racists. Now, imagine a  similar riot 100x worse that has no serious social cause at it's roots, one where the rioters in question are people who fit at least one trait of a sociopath, have repeatedly stated their hatred for mankind in general, clearly suffer from severe mental problems like autism, cheer on revolutions, and who won't just be targeting white people, but people period.

 I doubt a bunch of idiot avatards could be that dangerous, but still; sane people with guns who have flipped their lids are scary enough, but people who never had their lids fully on in the first place are far scarier. 

Sunday, January 29, 2012

Avatar fan supports SOPA

 I usually cheer on the trolls on IMDb's message boards, in fact, the guy who alerts me to much of their funnier stuff and emails me screenshots is one of the more prominent trolls. One troll though, solely to stir crap up, claimed in a thread that Cameron supports SOPA. As much as I dislike Cameron, there's really no proof of this. If Avatards had a shred of sanity, all they would do would call the troll out on his shit and leave.

 But nooooo...

 One of the avatards decides to be a big damn hero and say that he supports SOPA himself and that there's nothing wrong with doing so.

 To be fair, there have been other people who have mocked the SOPA protests, like Maddox, but only ironically or because they see the futility of the protests. Tom-Tom here thinks SOPA is a good thing and that the people supporting it are just misunderstood.

 Hey Tommo, I sure hope you keep this level a head when SOPA passes and Cameron slaps a copyright violation claim on your T'Sutey/Jake Sulley slash fiction.

 This whole thing makes me want to drown kittens.

Thursday, May 19, 2011

H.P. Lovecraft just rolled over in his grave (again):

So I was browsing Big Hollywood.com's old threads about Avatar recently, where a poster named Alexander_Hamilton quoted this little gem from an avatard named "avatarfurry"(kind of a redundant username, don'tcha think?) who posts on an avatard site called naviblue:

This is Bush's fault
I'm so glad now we are on a tract to save Mother Earth and make it like PANDORA. Only after the last Repuglicant is executed can we be free. After seeing AVATAR and going home to my parents house to pleasure myself, (to ease the depression and frustration) can I relax enough to plan my AVATAR costume. I feel if we can make AVATAR not just a dream but a reality can we advance as a culture. Only if and when we embrace Na'vi ism as a recognized philosophy or dare I say it a religion, then we will all be one people like on PANDORA. Down with the evil businesses and freedom for all, power to the people and the President, who has the wisdom to spread the wealth, so those that have too much have to give it to the poor. That is what the Na'vi do!


Nga na’viru yomtìyìng!!! FOREVER! "


 
Yeah, that's just plain scary. Even on Big Hollywood, where some of the craziest political bullshit ever written gets discussed on daily basis, they had to question if it was satire. Either way, this naviblue site sounds like a goldmine for lulz.

 This blog may not have gotten any reposnses yet, but I'm sure as hell not going to have any problem finding material for it.

Tuesday, May 17, 2011

Paying the Piper:

In 1284, the children of the town of Hamelin were led away, along with rats, by the Pied Piper. But that was just a legend. In 2009, James Cameron did the same thing, only he didn't use a flute to call away all the rats and children in the land, instead he used a shitty movie called Avatar to call away all the cretins and (man)children in the land, who were dazzled by it's original storyline , innovative special effects , well-rounded characters and mature adult storyline. I can't say for certain that rats did not enjoy the film as well, but that would be an insult to rats as they have notoriously good taste in film, with the exception of Armond White.

 'Twas not long before the cretins, gushing with many a hurr and many a durr, sought out the inter-ma-net to use as a cumrag for their constant ejaculations over the movie. Naturally, I, being a humble servant of the people who is here to make you laugh, like a clown, to fucking amuse you, have decided to archive examples of Avatar fanboy (or as I affectionately refer to them as, "avatards") stupidity, hypocrisy, immaturity, bigotry, and other "ys". Examples can be found almost anywhere, even in real life, but today's example comes from IMDb and from an avatard known as kaneishurt:

This is why if a technologically superior alien life form does attack this planet I will willfully take their side and kill as many humans as I can. After all one of the laws of nature is to adapt. Another example is how immigrants are coming over North America and taking all the jobs- Adaptability.

Honestly, I hate humans. I give to charity towards animals and environment.I will never give to cancer nor to tsunami "victims" . Even if I found a cure for cancer I won't part with it until the world bows down to me, sends every woman on the planet aged 23-27 in my bedroom and deposits 75 billion dollars in my account. Call me evil but that's my philosophy of life.

As you can see, I couldn't think of any comment better to get this blog rolling. Don't get used to the (fairly) competent spelling and grammar on display though, because as we probe deeper, we'll soon find that most avatards are not as courteous to the queen's english as friend kaneishurt. I'm gonna need a bigger blog...