Showing posts with label avatar fans are horrible people. Show all posts
Showing posts with label avatar fans are horrible people. Show all posts

Tuesday, May 21, 2013

Racist enjoyed 'Avatar'! Film at 11:00

Well, well, well. A friend of mind e-mailed me and pointed out that on the racist website Chimpout.com (Which you may remember) there was a recent thread talking about the cartoon "Legend of Korra" (A spin-off of the show Avatar the Last Airbender), and someone who mistakenly thought that the thread was talking about 'Avatar' as in James Cameron's movie made a post talking about how much they enjoyed the film and how they would rather live with Na'vi than black people.
 
 Don't take my word for it:
 
My, my, my. And I thought that supposedly everyone who hated this movie was an evil racist and that this movie's "beautiful message" made them feel "threatened", or at least, that's what avatards keep saying, so it must be true, right?
 
Oh man, am I gonna have fun linking to that thread and this pic next time some avatard starts their tired "If you don't love Avatar, you're racist!" bullshit.





 

Thursday, October 11, 2012

Avatard writes racist sci-fi novel for teens

One of the more common tactics used by avatards is to talk about how influential Avatar has been and how much it has changed the way movies are made. Other than an influx of 3D movies (which have existed since the 50s, and which were coming out so regularly that Cinemark was parodying it in their advertisements before Avatar even came out), I've failed to see the influence.

Now it seems though, that Avatar has had an influence on something, but not in in the area of film, but literature. A book recently came out called 'Saving the Pearls' involving environmental messages, the main character changing their race, and interracial romance with cat people.

It's certainly been getting attention lately. Mainly because it's a racist piece of shit. The book takes place in the future, where global warming caused by corporations has made it so that only black people can go out in the day, and have become the ruling class (seriously, that's the plot). So the heroine dyes her skin black so that she will be considered socially acceptable, and falls in love with a black dude who is also half-cat.


Also, if you were wondering what the title was referring to, it's because black people call themselves "coals", while white people are called "pearls" as a slur. If blacks were the ruling class, why would they call themselves "coals" instead of say, a more valuable black metal, like onyx? and wyh would white poeple, the minority, be named after a valuable object?

Hmmm, an attempt at fighting racism that is actually very racist itself, stupid logic, bullshit knowledge of even basic science. Sounds like Avatar to me!

And yes, that is the novel's heroine in blackface for the book's trailer.

Yes, this is a real book, and it really has been published. Just like '50 Shades of Gray' started out as a Twilight fanfic, who wants to bet that this racist bullshit started out as an Avatar fanfic? I wouldn't fucking be surprised, in fact, I'm pretty damn sure that's the case.

Remember this next time Avatards talk about how the movie has helped to combat racism and that only racist people dislike it, even though I've shown how thoroughly bullshitty that claim is.

Go here for a wonderful sporking of the book.


Monday, July 30, 2012

Avatards and Race Relations: Exposing a myth

One of the great myths spread by Avatards is that Avatar was successful because it had an "anti-racist" message, and was beloved by all minorities (especially black people) and that if you dislike the film, you must automatically be some sort of white supremacist racist inbred pot-bellied redneck sharecropper KKK member from the deep south who "doesn't want to see the truth" that Avatar provides. The only minorities who dislike the film are "Uncle Toms" (a submissive, weak-willed black person who loves white people and bows down to them), supposedly.

 Except, no. That isn't true at all.

A quick search on Google images for Avatar fans shows almost exclusively white people in costume, at conventions, or attending re-releases of the film. With one exception on page 3, it is like this for more than 20 pages (which is where I stopped looking) of ALL the results you see on Google images. Furthermore, a quick search on Google for White people + Avatar immediately brings up completely negative articles regarding the film and calling it "racist", "a feel good movie for white people", "patronizing", etc. Don't take my word for it though:

 Also interestingly, that first article, "When will white people stop making movies like Avatar", isn't just one that only came up because it matched the search terms; it is actually a very widespread article which many people believe and agree with. Look at how mnay times it has been copied to other sites on the internet; clearly, it isn't just an obscure/ignored rant made up by some lone crazy person:
 However, those results don't prove anything so much as that lots of people see a racist-condescending subtext in the film. There are people out there who will read racism into anything. Broad results like this don't prove that black people love or hate the film.

 But individual bloggers do.

The person who runs Truth First, a black power blog so outspoken some have called it satire, absolutely hates the film, and considers Neytiri "a white man's perversion" of African beauty.

 Now read some of the other posts on the blog.

 Does the person who runs "Truth First" sound like an "Uncle Tom" to you?

 Next we find the forums for Assata Shakur, black panther and mother of Tupac. This place has been described by some people as the "black version of Stormfront".


 Do those people, who consider white people a failed mutant race who suffer from undiagnosed insanity that makes them want to conquer other races, sound like submissive Uncle Toms to you?

 I'd be very interested in seeing an Avatard try to tell these people, in person, that they are Uncle Toms because they didn't love Avatar.

 Now we come to one of the only black guys I can find online who likes Avatar, Mr. Bunche, of the Vault of Buncheness blog.

 Vault of Buncheness exclusively reviews B-movies, sci-fi movies, porn and exploitation films, so it is inevitable that Avatar would be reviewed and, compared to a lot of the crap covered there, would come out looking good. Bunche did not LOVE the film, but he enjoyed it a lot and said he would see it again.

 I think it is telling that, for a film that "all black people everywhere" love, one would have to seek out an obscure sci-fi film blogger to find a black person who actually likes the film. Keep in mind too, that Bunche did not praise the film because of it's message, he thought the film was as cliche as the haters did; he just enjoyed it because he felt it was a technically apt, entertaining film and that there was no way the story could really be fresh, so he enjoyed it for what it is. Bunche also is known for enjoying the films of John Waters, as well as comedies like Soul Plane (which is widely loathed among the broader African American community as a "modern-day minstrel show").

 Clearly, he is a very hard man to offend, thus it makes sense that he wouldn't find Avatar problematic. I am not saying I am questioning his credibility because of the films he watches, in fact, I find it admirable that he likes "trashy" movies so openly, but clearly this is a guy who couldn't care less about the film's "message".

 So ultimately, we see from just these simple results that NO, Avatar is not universally beloved by the African-American community. At best, it was mildly enjoyed by ONE blogger who doesn't even view films in terms of race, at the most moderate, it was considered a well-meaning bone toss that was still extremely problematic and that would have been better if the main character was not present at all, at worst, it is considered a perversion of African culture and lambasted for it's racist, condescending use of the "mighty whitey" trope.

 And as for racists disliking the film...

 I've long used the term "chimpout' both online and in real life to describe people who fly off the handle because of stupid shit, but I've used it increasingly less because of a racist website called Chimpout.com, which is a site devoted to comparing black people to monkeys. Chimpout.com is interesting, in that it occasionally makes good points about double standards in media and is extremely tolerant of most non-white races, but it's still a despicable hate site. So, because of my personal dislike for the site, I decided to use it as my test to see just how much "racists" really "feel threatened" by Avatar.

In brief, they weren't.

 Most of them in fact, praised the film for not having any black people play human characters, several made defenses for the film saying it was harmless entertainment, one of them even liked the character of Neytiri and said they could ignore the fact that she was voiced by a black actress, one poster even approved of Zoe Saldana's casting by saying "who better to play a non-human than a non-human?" (which is as close to a compliment as they can give). Even the most vehemently negative of the posters still praised the film as a "technological triumph" and found good things to say about the film. Some even praised the Na'Vi as being better than actual black people.

 While I can't say that they all liked the film, for a forum whose entire purpose is to demonize black people, the posters on CO all seemed fairly ambivalent about the film. Clearly, they were not "threatened" or offended by it's message, several even defended it. Even the most negative feelings towards the film were calmly delivered and not filled with rage. All in all, that being the biggest thread on CO about Avatar, it was clear that not too many people cared.

 Objectively then, I would say that, when a website second only to Stormfront in infamy that has been called "the most racist website in North America" is ambivalent at worst towards a film, sometimes supportive (if in a condescending way), then that film is probably not "making racists everywhere feel threatened".

So who are the racists and bigots who discuss Avatar?

 Using the same logic that the fans do, I can only say that most racist and bigoted people who discuss Avatar are: The Fans.

 They make N-word jokes, check out this fan's username:

 He also clearly is not simply using the name as a term of endearment towards himself, he knows he's being racist, and laughing about it. Proof? He changed his username overnight because he didn't want to get called out for it:

  They also have no problem with other forms of bigotry, such as homphobia:

 They also quote racists in their signatures:
 Yes indeed, Gandhi was a racist. He even has fans on Chimpout.

 Yes, I know that "FinalFantasy_" was just joking around, pancake-eater was just issuing a common schoolyard taunt (although it does show how immature he is), and MuchToBeGratefulFor is not quoting Gandhi because of his racism, but still, this shows their hypocrisy.

 So what does this prove? Does it prove that I'm right? No, there are exception to every rule, but it does prove several things:

 -Avatar is not terribly popular with African-Americans to any overwhelming degree, and those who do praise it either couldn't care less about it's "message" or like the message but still find the film problematic. It is DEFINITELY not universally popular with them.

-Racists (and not just any racists, but ones from one of the most infamous racist websites of all time) don't have any particular hatred for the film, most are ambivalent about it, and some even support it. They are certainly not "threatened" by it.

-Avatar fans have no problem making racist and homophobic jokes, quoting racists, and telling people how they should feel. If anyone is the bigots, it's them.



Friday, July 20, 2012

Shooting at Colorado premiere of 'Dark Knight Rises": Possible Avatard at work?

 For most of us, going to see The Dark Knight Rises last night was a fun-filled experience. Oh yes, the film was depressing as hell, but it felt so good to see a decent wrap-up for the trilogy, especially one that avoided the dreaded "third movie' syndrome.

 Sadly, for a theatre in Colorado, a night's fun turned into tragedy. Some lunatic opened fire on a crowd, and 12 are already dead.

 Already, the liberals are trying to blame the film's content and the villain Bane as the inspiration for the shooting. This doesn't make sense; why would a fan shoot other fans? How would he be inspired to emulate the film if it only just premiered? (Maybe he saw an advance screening?) It's probably more likely that some nutjob, inspired all the OWS stuff from the past year, decided to emulate Bane (there was a massive scale trolling by OWS supporters on the TDKR boards because they thought Bane was supposed to represent them) as some idiotic form of protest against "capitalist" America, but I doubt it.

 What I'm scared about is, is this the first example of an Avatard going on a killing spree?

Avatards have been going off on Nolan and Batman fanboys since day one, and although I know several Avatar-haters who are Batman fans, I've yet to see a single one actually mention the film of their own accord when debating with Cameron fanboys on the various Avatar message boards. Nevertheless, Avatards have tried their best to keep up pretenses of there being a rivalry. I've seen them accusing people who hated Avatar of being Batman/Nolan/comic book fans with no proof, as if it was some generic insult:
Fun fact: clr03f has never mentioned comic books at all on his entire time on the Avatar boards.

 Is it possible some Avatard has finally snapped, and decided to kill some people as some sort of twisted "revenge" against Nolans fans, or to drive down the film's box office?

 I've already e-mailed several of my scan providers asking if they've seen any recent threats by Avatards against Nolan fans. I know there have been, I even remember some idiot on the IMDb forums joking about setting off a bomb at the premiere of the next Batman movie (this was back in 2010) but I don't know for sure how recently and how seriously (you never can tell with these whackjobs). Rest assured, if  me or my providers finds something incriminating , to the FBI it will go.

 So far, the killer's motives have not been released to the public, and likely the killer wasn't inspired by anything at all other than his own psychosis, but I'll be following this case. I really, really pray I'm wrong about this guy being an Avatard, because you just know there will be copycats if he is.

 Whatever the case, let's not lose sight of the victims. My heart goes out to each and every one of them and their friends and families. There are some sick, sick people in this world, and it's sad that they can't all just confine their dementia to message boards.

Thursday, February 2, 2012

A return to Youtube

Been a while since I toured Youtube, but check these little gems out:



 You never can tell whether these are studio shills or actual people. No wonder they don't object to Cameron's silly dialogue; they actually talk that way in real life! It's like finding a Shakespeare fan who uses "thee" and "thou" in everyday conversation.

 Now here's a comment which may just be the most genuinely despicable thing an Avatard has ever said, what's funny is that it has nothing to do with the video in question, which is just a trailer:


 Burn in hell.